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Dave Kansas
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Dave Kansas asked 10 months ago in Tax Preparation

Will Obama's tax plans help you?


The Obama administration is planning a large fiscal stimulus package, but it is also looking at potential changes in the tax code. One chief goal is to provide tax relief to middle class families and cut taxes for small businesses. While much of the tax plans are in flux – there’s chatter about additional tax cuts and potentially a postponement of some tax increases – the basics of Obama’s program is pretty clear.
According to his web site, www.change.gov, He wants to:

• Cut taxes for 95% of working families, with a $1,000 tax cut for working couples and a $500 tax cut for individuals. No family making less than $250,000 will see a tax increase.

• Provide tax cuts for low- and middle-income senior citizens, homeowners, the uninsured and families sending a child to college.

• Eliminate capital gains taxes for small businesses and reduce taxes for companies that create jobs in the U.S.

• Simplify the tax process through
eliminating some filing requirements and consolidating various tax credits.

• Taxes on families making more than $250,000 will rise, with many such families paying taxes similar to levels seen in the 1990s.

One example of the Obama tax plan: A single parent making $40,000 with two young children and childcare expenses would get a tax benefit of $2,100 through tax credits and other programs.

Do you think the Obama tax plan will help you? Do you think it will help revive the ailing economy?

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benjr2003
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I think the plan ought to include paying off mortgages. This will
give the banks money to loan & money in the american people's pockets to be able to spend more therefore creating more jobs and definate economic stimulis all around.

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lyla57
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NO, it will not it will be a bandaid covering a wound that is slowly festering, eventually we will be in the same boat again. Why not just eliminate all income taxes to families making less than 150,000 for a year? Now that might help people more..because there will be more income coming in to your house. If they can bail out the banks, they can do the same for the American people!

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Kelly Phillips Erb
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I agree that spending on infrastructure should be a priority. We have serious issues with our roads, bridges and the like - those have to be addressed and doing so creates jobs.

With respect to other spending, though, we need to scale back. When I talk to folks about our economy, what frightens me is how we have grown so used to giant expenditures that those numbers don't even mean anything. What used to shock us at hundreds of millions of dollars is now considered a pittance. We can't fix all of our problems by throwing dollars at them.

We can't keeping spending and then cry that we want tax cuts. Tax cuts = revenue. Revenue needs to be greater than spending. Didn't we all learn that with our allowances? ;)

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David R Hanson
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I generally agree with you, Kelly. An immediate boost in take-home pay is more sensible than a rebate check, and there isn't all that much that tax tinkering can do to fix the economy.

I think the one area where we might disagree is on the need to cut spending as a top priority--at least in the short run.

A huge contributor to our current economic woes is that demand for goods and services has fallen off a cliff. That's mainly because people and businesses are neither willing nor able to buy like they used to. There are many reasons for this: collapsing home values and investment portfolios, the drying up of consumer credit, rising un- and under-employment, and general economic pessimism are among the most important. But this situation is quite serious, and will take some time to work out of.

Given this situation, a key goal of the current stimulus package has to be to help stabilize demand for goods and services. And researchers have convincingly established that if it is done with any kind of care, public spending will increase demand much more efficiently than will reducing taxes. And that makes sense when you think about it. Cutting taxes--particularly to businesses or to more affluent individuals--offers no guarantee that extra money will be spent at all, much less in fashion that stimulates the economy efficiently. On the other hand, "shovel ready" infrastructure projects (repairing ailing roads and bridges, for example) puts people to work right away, helping to reduce the collapse in demand. That's one reason why short term, spending should and will go up, not down.

The long run is another story, of course. I admit to being nervous about the state of the federal budget once we get through this powerful economic downturn. Once stability is restored, we'll need to enact sizable tax increases and spending cuts. But first things first. When your town is on fire, the first thing you do is dispatch the fire department. Once the fire is out, THEN you then worry about how to pay the fireman's overtime and repair the fire damage.

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Kelly Phillips Erb
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Realistically, a lot of these planned changes aren't going to happen - at least not any time soon. The economy has ensured that changes to the tax code will be made in baby steps.

So, no to raising taxes for anyone - those making over $250,000 included - at least for now. You're just not going to see that in the final plan.

The tax cuts for working individuals are in the version of the plan offered up by the House for discussion - but some members of Congress aren't happy with those cuts. I don't think they're enough to make a real impact in the economy. On the plus side, they're being presented as payroll credits which means that instead of silly rebate checks (a terrible idea), taxpayers will merely take home more in their paychecks (a better idea).

I don't think that we will see any additional tax cuts beyond that credit for working families in the first year. Again, there are simply so many issues with the economy that cutting revenue is not appealing to Congress right now.

Ditto for extra tax credits, etc. I just don't think that new credits will be added right now but existing credits might be expanded.

All of that tax code simplification talk? Won't happen - for years. That's my prediction. Sorry guys! :(

Realistically, I just don't think that fixing the economy through the tax code is the way to go. For all that we complain about taxation, the US doesn't pay that much as a percentage compared to other nations. And in the midst of a flailing economy (flailing just sounds better than failing), cutting those rates even more just doesn't work when you crunch the numbers. Cutting spending, not cutting taxes should be the priority. Beyond that, there are bigger economic factors - like jobs - that will drive the recovery.

What do you think?

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